He had the following children:
F i Edna Mae OLEWINE was born about 1898. She died on 2 Dec 1989.
MARTHON. married Esther E. SLOAN. The marriage ended in divorce.
Esther E. SLOAN [Parents] was born 1 in 1846 in Ireland. She married MARTHON. The marriage ended in divorce. Esther was counted in a census 2 in 1880 in Ayr, Fulton, Pennsylvania.
Hi Sandra, I checked all my Irish to America CDs and found your Creaton Sloan in "Irish to America, 1846-1865.
Creaton, Sloan, age 8, child, male, Last Residence:Ireland.
Date of Arrival: May 29, 1852
Port of Debarkation: New York
Final Destination: USA
Ship's Name: Scranton
Manifest ID # 900123
Port of Embarkation: Liverpool
Purpose for travel: Staying in USA but not a citizen of USA
Mode of Travel: Steerage.Creaton was traveling with two other Sloans,
Esther, age 6, child
Mary Ann, age 36, "Servant", no marital status.All three are listed as Last Residence: Ireland. There is no mention of
Irish county. There is no relationship information.I would guess that the two children are Mary Ann's children, but that is a
guess. She could have been their aunt or cousin.NOTE: This is just a guess as to the possible relationship between Mary Sloan, Mary Ann Sloan, Creighton Sloan and Esther Sloan. It is based on the passenger list of the ship Scranton which arrived in New York from Liverpool on May 29, 1852 and on the 1880 census.
They had the following children:
M i William S. MARTHON was born 1 in 1876 in Pennsylvania. William was counted in a census 2 in 1880 in Ayr, Fulton, Pennsylvania.
This is not certain but instead is a reasonable guess. It is based on the 1880 census which lists William S. Marthon as a "Grandson". The presumption is that Esther Sloan married and then divorced Mr. Marthon or else he died and by 1880 she was back living with her mother and her four-year-old son.
Further research is needed into this.
William SLOAN [Parents] 1 was born on 19 Nov 1798 in Franklin, Pennsylvania. He died on 2 Dec 1876 in FULTON Co. PA. He was buried in Union Cemetery, McConnellsburg, Fulton County, Pennsylvania. He married Mary SLOAN on 10 May 1824.
How many early immigrants to America went back to Europe?
For a long time I have faced a brick wall with regard to my great-grandfather, Creighton Sloan (1843-1916). Recently through the help of several researchers including especially Molly Kennedy (who I highly recommend) I have made substantial progress. Indeed, I would feel on the verge of completely solving the problem, except for one detail: In order for my theory to work, it was necessary for one of my ancestors, having been born in Pennsylvania, to go back to Ireland, probably in 1842, and then return to America in 1852.
We tend to assume that once a family reached America, they never went back. However, I recall reading some statistics saying that about half of the early Americans did go back. Therefore, I would like to know how likely it is that this occurred.
The particulars of my case is that the death certificate of my great-grandfather says that he was born on June 25, 1842. In the 1910 census, his daughter Anna Daisy said her father had been born "At Sea-Irish".
The passenger list for the Ship E.C. Scranton shows that a "Creaton Sloan" aged 8 arrived in New York from Liverpool on May 29, 1852. This is Film ZI-131, Reel 113, starts at page 624. On line 486 it shows Creaton Sloan age 8 arriving from Ireland destination Philadelphia. Line 487 shows Esther Sloan, age 6, undoubtedly his sister. Line 485 shows Mary Ann Sloan age 36 (or possibly age 31). The ship had 665 passengers.
Most of the other passengers are listed as going to New York. Since the Sloan's destination is Philadelphia, it seems likely that somebody was waiting for them there, possibly their father.
There is a remarkable similarity between this family and a family that had long been in America. William Sloan was born in 1798 in Pennsylvania. He was married to his first cousin, Mary Sloan, who was born in 1806. They had ten children. Among them were Mary Ann Sloan, born about 1827, Esther Sloan, born about 1839, Infant Sloan born 1841 and Infant Sloan born 1843.
The Infant Sloan born 1841 has Ancestral File Number 1F28-66H . The Infant Sloan born 1843 has Ancestral File Number 1F28-67P .
What I am suggesting is that the Infant Sloan born in 1843 could be my great-grandfather. If that is the case, then I am related to most of the Sloans in America, because this family has been traced back far.
An additional important bit of evidence is that William Sloan went to live in Fulton County, Pennsylvania and died there in 1876. My great-grandfather Creighton Sloan also lived in Fulton County, Pennsylvania in about 1876. He later moved back to Philadelphia where he was for the 1880 census and then in 1882 moved to Chicago where he remained for 34 years until his death in 1916.
My theory, if correct, also solves another problem. The 1910 census says that he was born "at Sea". However, he was born in 1842 or 1843 and arrived in America in 1852. It is possible that he was born "At Sea" on the ship taking him from America to Ireland, not the other way around.
I think that I am on to something. I would like to hear the opinions of anybody else.
Sam Sloan
Married a first cousin
You have given me wonderful information, because Creighton Sloan lived for some time in Fulton County, Pennsylvania. He lived there with his wife, Elizabeth.
If you will look on the map, you will see that Fulton County is a small, remote place, so this cannot be a coincidence. This must be the same family.
Now, I have to try to piece this all together and make some sense out of it.
Thank you so much.
Sam Sloan
At 05:57 PM 7/28/2003 -0400, M Carr wrote:
> Hi Sam, Ancestry famly trees, also. Entries: 2006 Updated: Thu
>Nov 30 15:58:37 2000 Contact: Barbara Hartley-Sedillos Index |
>Descendancy | Register | Pedigree | Ahnentafel | Add Post-em ID: I1208
>Name: William Sloan Sex: M Birth: 19 Nov 1798 in WESTMORELAND Co. PA
>Death: 2 Dec 1876 in FULTON Co. PA. Note:
>>Married a first cousin.
>>W.R. Sloan says b. Westmoreland Co. Pa. what is proof?
>>& Susannah after death of father. Lived on farm Purchased
>>by Grandfather Wm. in 1762 also owned other land.
>>CHILDREN:
>>01 JOHN MEANS 02 MARY ANN 03 MARTHA REED
>>04 SUSANA 05 son d. infant 06 THOMAS NESBIT
>>07 daughter d. infant 08 SUSAN JANE 09 EASTER ELIZABETH
>>10 ?? d. infant 11 ?? d. infant
>>
>>Sources:
>>1. Census 1840: Bedford Co. Pa. Air Twp, pg388 [000100100 00200101]
>>2. Census 1850: Fulton Co. Pa.
>>2. "Sloan-Trout Family" by Walter Reed Sloan [parents,spouse,children]
>>& Martha Reed.
>>
>
>
>Father: Thomas Nesbit Sloan b: 1 Feb 1769 in BEDFORD Co. PA
>Mother: Martha Reed b: ABT 1775
>
>Marriage 1 Mary Sloan b: 10 Nov 1806 in Bedford Co. Pa. Married: 10 May
>1824 in PA.Children John Means Sloan b: 22 Apr 1825 in FULTON Co. PA
>Mary Ann Sloan b: ABT 1827 in Fulton Co. Pa. Martha Reed Sloan b: ABT
>1829 in Fulton Co. Pa. Susana Jane Sloan b: ABT 1830 in FULTON Co. PA.
>Thomas Nesbit Sloan b: ABT 1835 in FULTON Co. PA. Susan Jane Sloan b: ABT
>1839 in fulton Co. Pa. Easter Elizabeth Sloan b: ABT 1841 in fulton Co.
>Pa. Nace Genealogy
>
> Entries: 509 Updated: Sun Nov 24 08:47:00 2002 Contact: J. Scott
>Barnes Home Page: "JSB's Genealogy" site Index | Descendancy |
>Register | Pedigree | Ahnentafel | Add Post-em ID: I174 Name: William
>SLOAN Given Name: William Surname: Sloan Sex: M Birth: 19 Nov 1798
>Death: 2 Dec 1876 1 Burial: Union Cemetery, Mcconnellsburg, PA. 2
>
>Father: Thomas N. SLOAN
>Mother: Martha REED
>
>Marriage 1 Mary SLOAN b: 10 Nov 1806 Married: 10 May 1824Children John
>Means SLOAN b: 22 Apr 1825 Mary Ann SLOAN Martha Reed SLOAN Susana
>Jane SLOAN Unnamed SLOAN Thomas Nesbit SLOAN Unnamed SLOAN Susan
>Jane SLOAN Easter Elizabeth SLOAN Infant SLOAN Infant SLOAN
>Checking familysearch.org, the unnamed infants were born 1835, 1841 and
>1843. The information was gathered by: Submitter(s): ROBERT W. REID
> 6450 CURL ROAD
>TILLAMOOK OR USA 97141 Census transcriptions: 1850 Fulton County
>Aye Township
>Page 46
>August 1, 1850
>Sloan, William, 52, farmer, b. Penn
>Mary, 43, b. Penn
>Mary, 22, b. Penn
>Susan, 8, b. Penn
>Esther, 4, b. Penn
>Linn (?not sure), Margaret, 55, b. Penn
>Shives (?not sure), Samuel, 25, laborer, b. Penn 1850 Fulton County Todd
>Township Page 11
> b. Penn
>Keziah, 25, farmer, b. Penn
>William A., 3, b. Penn
>Thomas F., 1, b. Penn 1860 PA Fulton County Ayr Township Speersville
>Post Office Page 15 August 1, 1860 63, farmer, $12,000; $1243; b.PA Mary,
>54, b. PA Mary, 33, domestic, b. PA domestic. b. PA Hester E., 13, b. PA
> 1870 Fulton County Ayr Township Webster Mills Page 13 June 25, 1870 Sloan,
>William, 72, farmer, b. Penn Mary, 63, $63,000, $5000, keeping house, b.
>Penn Mary A., 42, b. Penn Susan, 28, b. Penn Esther, 22, b. Penn This
>could be sisters Esther and Mary in 1910 County ED 24 Page
>82A 384 McKean Street Esther E., 58, own income, b. PA Mary A., 60, b. PA
> that possibility? The CD info sure looks like it has to be your
>Creighton, I'll give you that! Mary
Mary SLOAN [Parents] was born on 10 Nov 1806. She died on 10 Feb 1887. She married William SLOAN on 10 May 1824.
They had the following children:
Thomas Nesbitt SLOAN [Parents] 1 was born on 17 Feb 1769 in Lewisville, Indiana, Pa. He died on 14 Jun 1813. He was buried in Lewisville, Indiana, Pa. He married Martha REID.
Martha REID [Parents] 1 was born in 1775 in Franklin Co, Pa. She died on 1 Oct 1833. She was buried in Lewisville, Indiana, Pa. She married Thomas Nesbitt SLOAN.
They had the following children:
M i William SLOAN was born on 19 Nov 1798. He died on 2 Dec 1876. F ii Esther SLOAN was born about 1800 in Franklin Co, Pennsylvania. F iii Fanny SLOAN was born about 1802 in Franklin Co, Pennsylvania. F iv Mary Polly SLOAN was born on 12 Mar 1804 in Franklin Co, Pennsylvania. M v John SLOAN was born about 1806 in Franklin Co, Pennsylvania. F vi Martha SLOAN was born about 1808 in Franklin Co, Pennsylvania. F vii Jane SLOAN was born about 1810 in Franklin Co, Pennsylvania. M viii Andrew Reid SLOAN was born about 1812 in Franklin Co, Pennsylvania. M ix Thomas Nesbit Jr SLOAN was born about 1814 in Franklin Co, Pennsylvania.
Andrew REID [Parents] was born in 1733 in County Antrim, Northern Ireland. He died in 1819 in Pa, Pa. He married Esther MCBRYAR on 24 Mar 1769 in Antrim Twp, Cumberland, Pa.
Esther MCBRYAR [Parents] was born about 1747 in Antrim Twp, Franklin, Pa. She married Andrew REID on 24 Mar 1769 in Antrim Twp, Cumberland, Pa.
They had the following children:
F i Mary REID was born in 1782 in Franklin, Pa. She died on 22 Nov 1843. She was buried in Lower Burrell, Westmoreland, Pa. M ii David REID was born in Jan 1772 in , Franklin, Pa. He died in Feb 1863 in Wheatland Twp, Indiana, Pa. He was buried in Centerville, Indiana, Pa. M iii Thomas REID was born in 1774 in , Franklin, Pa. He died on 14 Jan 1840. F iv Martha REID was born in 1775. She died on 1 Oct 1833. F v Elizabeth REID was born in 1778 in , Franklin, Pa. She died on 26 Oct 1849. F vi Esther REID was born on 1 Jan 1780 in , Franklin, Pa. She died on 18 Jan 1854. M vii Andrew Jr REID was born about 1784 in , Franklin, Pa. M viii William REID was born about 1786 in , Franklin, Pa. He died in 1831 in , Franklin, Pa. M ix John REID was born in 1788 in , Franklin, Pa. F x Susanna (Ruth) REID was born in 1791 in , Franklin, Pa. She was buried in Ayr Twp, Fulton, Pa. M xi Robert REID was born in Mar 1795 in Antrim Twp, Franklin, Pa. He died on 10 May 1845 in Antrim Twp, Franklin, Pa. He was buried in Greencastle, Franklin, Pa.
William SLOAN [Parents] was born about 1743 in Westmoreland, Pa. He married Frances NESBIT.
Frances NESBIT was born about 1747 in Lewisville, Indiana, Pa. She married William SLOAN.
They had the following children:
M i Thomas Nesbitt SLOAN was born on 17 Feb 1769. He died on 14 Jun 1813. M ii John SLOAN was born about 1771.
John SLOAN [Parents] was born about 1771 in Lewisville, Indiana, Pa. He married Susannah SLOAN.
Susannah SLOAN [Parents] was born about 1784 in Antrim Twp, Cumberland, Pa. She married John SLOAN.
They had the following children:
F i Mary SLOAN was born on 10 Nov 1806. She died on 10 Feb 1887.
William SLOAN [Parents] was born about 1715 in Possibly, Ireland. He died before 1744 in Peters Township, Cumberland, Pennsylvania. He married Nancy (Ann) MEANS in 1735 in Of Basking Ridge, Somerset, Nj. They were married in 1735 in Of Basking Ridge, Somerset, Nj. William was born about 1715 in Possibly, Ireland. He died before 1744 in Peters Township, Cumberland, Pennsylvania.
Nancy (Ann) MEANS [Parents] was born in 1717 in Fermanagh, Fermanagh, Ireland. She died in Mercerburg, Franklin, Pennsylvania. She was buried in 1776 in Mercerburg, Franklin, Pennsylvania. She married William SLOAN in 1735 in Of Basking Ridge, Somerset, Nj. They were married in 1735 in Of Basking Ridge, Somerset, Nj. Nancy was born in 1717 in Fermanagh, Fermanagh, Ireland. She died in Mercerburg, Franklin, Pennsylvania. She was buried in 1776 in Mercerburg, Franklin, Pennsylvania.
They had the following children:
M i William SLOAN was born in 1736 in Peters Twp., Cumber., Pa. William was born in 1736 in Peters Twp., Cumber., Pa. M ii John SLOAN was born in 1737 in Peters Twp., Cumber., Pa. John was born in 1737 in Peters Twp., Cumber., Pa. M iii Robert SLOAN was born in 1738. He died on 4 Mar 1816. M iv William SLOAN was born about 1743. F v Jane SLOAN was born on 7 Oct 1744 in Peter's Twp. Cumberland, Pa. She died on 6 Jan 1818 in King's Mt., Lincoln, Nc. She was buried in Presbyterian Church Cem., Long Creek,. Jane was born on 7 Oct 1744 in Peter's Twp. Cumberland, Pa. She died on 6 Jan 1818 in King's Mt., Lincoln, Nc. She was buried in Presbyterian Church Cem., Long Creek. M vi Robert MEANS was born about 1746 in <Peter's Twp. Cumberland, Pa>. Robert was born about 1746 in <Peter's Twp. Cumberland, Pa>.
George SLOAN was born about 1689 in Scotland. He died in Rowan County, North Carolina.
He had the following children:
M i William SLOAN was born about 1715. He died before 1744. M ii Fergus SLOAN was born in 1720 in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania. He died in 1812 in Salisbury District, Rowan, North Carolina. M iii Samuel SLOAN was born about 1718 in Possibly, Ireland.
John MEANS [Parents] was born in 1678 in Basking Ridge, Somerset, Nj. He was christened in 1739 in , Fermanagh, Ireland. He died on 29 Jan 1739 in Makefield Twp., Bucks, Pa. He was buried in 1739 in Deep Run, Presbyterian, Churchyard, Bucks. He married Miss MCCORD about 1700 in , Fermanagh, Ireland.
Miss MCCORD was born in 1678 in , Tyrone, Ireland. She died in 1717 in Of Fermanagh, Tyrone, , Ireland. She married John MEANS about 1700 in , Fermanagh, Ireland.
They had the following children:
F i Nancy (Ann) MEANS was born in 1717. She was buried in 1776. M ii William MEANS was born on 29 Jan 1694/1739 in Basking Ridge, Somerset, Nj. He died in 1778 in Tinnicum Twp, Bucks, Pa. He was buried in Deep Run, Bucks, Pennsylvania. M iii Robert MEANS was born on 29 Jan 1715/1739 in Basking Ridge, Somerset, Nj. He died in 1779 in , Mifflin Co, Pa. He was buried in Ferguson's Run, Juniata, Pa. M iv William MEANS was born about 1713 in <, Fermanagh, Ire.>. M v John MEANS was born about 1724 in Co. Tyrone, Ireland. He died in , , Pa.. M vi Hugh MEANS was born about 1696 in Co. Tyrone, Ireland. M vii William MEANS was born about 1719 in Ireland. He died in Lancaster Co., Pennsylvania.